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Post by sens on Aug 5, 2008 19:18:41 GMT -5
place bids below
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 7, 2008 23:03:50 GMT -5
4 years, $2,750,000 2.75 SB
Avg: $3,437,500 / year
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Post by sens on Aug 9, 2008 23:11:11 GMT -5
signed
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 9, 2008 23:30:59 GMT -5
I thought I was outbid?
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Post by atlantagm on Aug 9, 2008 23:36:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought I saw someone else outbid you...in fact, I thought it was Jordan.
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Post by coloradogm on Aug 9, 2008 23:43:56 GMT -5
Yes, I also saw that...
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Post by sens on Aug 9, 2008 23:59:14 GMT -5
Yes but withdrew the bid awhile ago. Cap issues jh
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Post by Rubber_Duck on Aug 10, 2008 0:04:40 GMT -5
i thought we weren't allowed to do that?
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Post by atlantagm on Aug 10, 2008 0:06:51 GMT -5
Yes but withdrew the bid awhile ago. Cap issues jh It's my understanding that's not allowed. And, besides, you just made a bid for Timonen for 5 mil per season not that long ago. If the Witt offer was made before the Timonen one (which I think it was), then the Witt offer should definitely stand.
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Post by coloradogm on Aug 10, 2008 0:10:36 GMT -5
Yes but withdrew the bid awhile ago. Cap issues jh It's my understanding that's not allowed. And, besides, you just made a bid for Timonen for 5 mil per season not that long ago. If the Witt offer was made before the Timonen one (which I think it was), then the Witt offer should definitely stand. I agree - it seems completely unfair for an offer to be withdrawn... Especially since you just bid on Timonen.
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Post by mleducislander on Aug 10, 2008 0:10:48 GMT -5
All I can say is...Whoa, Dude...no smiley...
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 10, 2008 0:14:24 GMT -5
I was talking to Ian around 8:20 EST and the Witt bid had been placed. If the bid was the placed on Timonen later on. The Witt bid should stand, and the Timonen offer should be rescinded.
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Post by mleducislander on Aug 10, 2008 0:19:11 GMT -5
Agreed...I mean, seriously man...what the fuck???
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 0:32:30 GMT -5
I had a deal in the works. fell apart. happy to go back to the orginal offer. jh
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Post by B-Hawks on Aug 10, 2008 0:33:07 GMT -5
bad bad bad.. can't withdraw bids at all.. Hasn't been allowed for a few years.
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 0:33:09 GMT -5
3mil 2 yrs 3mil signing bonus in effect. timonnen withdrawn jh
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 10, 2008 0:34:33 GMT -5
I had a deal in the works. fell apart. happy to go back to the orginal offer. jh I think once a bid has been placed, it should stick unless it deliberately puts a team over the cap. Was this the case?
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 0:35:57 GMT -5
My bad. Is all. I thought we could withdraw bids if was going to put over the cap. I have rescinded my offer on timonen. Witt offer stands. jh
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 0:41:43 GMT -5
Agreed...I mean, seriously man...what the fuck??? My humblest apologies to those who have never made a mistake. If you would like to step out and help out....feel free. If not, relax and lets continue. As stated, timonen withdrawn, Witt bid back in place.
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Post by Nashville Predators on Aug 10, 2008 0:44:08 GMT -5
I think we made it clear we were not allowing any changes to posts be it editing or deleting them. And that once a bid was made it was final.
"And yes once a post has shown to be "editted" the bid is nullified. Make sure you post what you want to post."
I need to step in an make a ruling. When a bid got edited or deleted it was my intention to remove that GM altogether from that players bidding. By bidding on Witt, Eric has since moved away and looked elsewhere and also by bidding on Timmonen other GMs now have their money moved elsewhere too when they may have wanted to bid on him. I believe the only fair recourse is to say Washington's bid stands - possibly extend the deadline - and Ottawa is removed from bidding on both players. Does this sound like a fair recourse? Or if the majority feel Ottawa's offer for Witt should stand and the Timmonen offer voided than we can go that route.
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Post by B-Hawks on Aug 10, 2008 0:51:23 GMT -5
I think we made it clear we were not allowing any changes to posts be it editing or deleting them. And that once a bid was made it was final. "And yes once a post has shown to be "editted" the bid is nullified. Make sure you post what you want to post." I need to step in an make a ruling. When a bid got edited or deleted it was my intention to remove that GM altogether from that players bidding. By bidding on Witt, Eric has since moved away and looked elsewhere and also by bidding on Timmonen other GMs now have their money moved elsewhere too when they may have wanted to bid on him. I believe the only fair recourse is to say Washington's bid stands - possibly extend the deadline - and Ottawa is removed from bidding on both players. Does this sound like a fair recourse? Or if the majority feel Ottawa's offer for Witt should stand and the Timmonen offer voided than we can go that route. I say B.. It doesn't sound like Washington was expecting Witt so it wouldn't be fair to throw him on Eric.
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Post by atlantagm on Aug 10, 2008 0:54:25 GMT -5
I think we made it clear we were not allowing any changes to posts be it editing or deleting them. And that once a bid was made it was final. "And yes once a post has shown to be "editted" the bid is nullified. Make sure you post what you want to post." I need to step in an make a ruling. When a bid got edited or deleted it was my intention to remove that GM altogether from that players bidding. By bidding on Witt, Eric has since moved away and looked elsewhere and also by bidding on Timmonen other GMs now have their money moved elsewhere too when they may have wanted to bid on him. I believe the only fair recourse is to say Washington's bid stands - possibly extend the deadline - and Ottawa is removed from bidding on both players. Does this sound like a fair recourse? Or if the majority feel Ottawa's offer for Witt should stand and the Timmonen offer voided than we can go that route. I think it was fairly clear that editing or deleting posts was not allowed. I think, in this case, having Ottawa removed from both players bidding seems the way to go.
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 10, 2008 0:56:50 GMT -5
Extend his deadline by 12-24-36-?
I'm sure I'll get upped. If no one does, I'll take him.
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Post by atlantagm on Aug 10, 2008 0:57:32 GMT -5
I think we made it clear we were not allowing any changes to posts be it editing or deleting them. And that once a bid was made it was final. "And yes once a post has shown to be "editted" the bid is nullified. Make sure you post what you want to post." I need to step in an make a ruling. When a bid got edited or deleted it was my intention to remove that GM altogether from that players bidding. By bidding on Witt, Eric has since moved away and looked elsewhere and also by bidding on Timmonen other GMs now have their money moved elsewhere too when they may have wanted to bid on him. I believe the only fair recourse is to say Washington's bid stands - possibly extend the deadline - and Ottawa is removed from bidding on both players. Does this sound like a fair recourse? Or if the majority feel Ottawa's offer for Witt should stand and the Timmonen offer voided than we can go that route. I say B.. It doesn't sound like Washington was expecting Witt so it wouldn't be fair to throw him on Eric. I'm sure if Eric didn't want Witt, he wouldn't have placed his bid on him. I fine with either giving Washington Witt or extending the deadline.
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Post by mleducislander on Aug 10, 2008 0:58:30 GMT -5
Despite my protests, I am fine with things going back to where they were, that is with Jordan still being in play with Witt and withdrawing from Timonen. My main issue was with the idea of the guy running the show also pulling the strings so to speak. I thought we were all onside with rules.
Ken, your say is the final one for sure, but I'm willing to let this slide if all wrongs have ultimately been righted. Let's maybe just get the appropriate time stamps figured out.
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Post by STLGM on Aug 10, 2008 1:07:57 GMT -5
If the bidding is still open on him whether it be Eric or Jordan with the final bid I would like to add my bid, if it is closed just ignore my bid!
Years: 2 Base: $3,250,000 Signing Bonus: $3,250,0000 TOTAL CONTRACT BEING OFFERED: $4,875,000 over 2 years
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 1:19:04 GMT -5
i am happy to remove myself from both. it was my error. i screwed up. too many things going on. i will not bid on either. jh
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Post by FincanSJGM on Aug 10, 2008 2:30:41 GMT -5
If Jordan is fine with removing both bids then Eric should get him as no other bid was made by the original deadline. Just my opinion though.
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 2:39:02 GMT -5
I am happy to award to Eric if everyone is happy.... jh
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 10, 2008 3:09:18 GMT -5
Whatever Ken decides will be perfect with me.
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