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Post by Bryce - Minny on Feb 12, 2004 13:32:51 GMT -5
More line brawls like we saw last night in the Oilers Thrashers matchup, Bishai throwing em from inside the Thrashers bench, beautiful. Conklin and Nurminen chucking the nucks, beautiful.
Take out the instigator and let the Laraques, Brashears, Hordichuks of the world inspire fear in EVERYONE not just the other teams goon. Tyson Nash wants to throw a cheap shot on Naslund? Brookbank should be able to beat his face in without the extra two.
INSTIGATOR IS EVIL
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Post by FincanSJGM on Feb 13, 2004 15:34:26 GMT -5
And I was there to see it all live
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Post by Nashville Predators on Mar 10, 2004 13:46:00 GMT -5
Odd Bryce that you condone such violence in hockey, yet chastise Bertuzzi.
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Post by Bryce - Minny on Mar 10, 2004 13:51:09 GMT -5
HUGE difference in violence in hockey, with gusy squaring off and fighting, and what Bertuzzi did.
If you want to say that was hockey, your dilusional. That was the ultimate cheap shot, point out the cheap shot in the Oiler-Thrasher brawl. There was none.
Bertuzzi's actions have no place in hockey, should Moore have dropped the gloves with Bertuzzi? probably, even though he did before with Cooke.
You take the instigator rule out, and this doesnt happen, because Moore knows it's coming and he almost HAS to drop em all game long. Is that a good thing? In my mind yes, sure brings accountability back into the game.
Still, should Brashear have fought McSorley? Yes, but he didnt and McSorely crossed that line, Bertuzzi should get the same punishment.
Bryce
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Post by Nashville Predators on Mar 12, 2004 1:12:07 GMT -5
I'm sure Worrell spearing Ruttuu while Ruttuu was on the bench is part of hockey too. Worrell got nothing for it.
And I don't think ANY hit to the head should be part of hockey. Whether it be fist (Bertuzzi to Moore), elbow (Bure to Churla) or Shoulder (MOORE TO NASLUND), none should be present in the game. It's really too bad that Moore fractured some vertabrae, as if he was only concussed Bertuzzi would only be suspended for the season. The injury, and how quickly it was released by Colorado, had a HUGE part to do with the sentence.
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Mar 12, 2004 3:05:14 GMT -5
The injury should be a part of the sentence. I know this is slightly different from laws, but if you kill some one, whether you meant to or not, you still did it. I know it doesn't completely relate to the bertuzzi mugging, but its the only example I could think of. I do believe that Bertuzzi is whole-heartedly sorry for what he did, but Im sure a lot of people who do bad things are also sorry for their actions. He committed the act of performing a cheap shot, so he should suffer the consequences. I think that his end of the year suspension is a solid start, and that since there might or might not be hockey next season, he might not be playing in the NHL for some time. so in the end, that end of the season suspension will probably last longer than expected.
I've seen Steve Moore's hit on Naslund a few times, and to be honest, I don't think its all that bad. It really looks like a hit gone wrong. At the point of impact they were both off balance and akward. If they were both skating normal and made contact, it might not have looked as bad. in the End, Naslund received a concussion, and I'm sure the Canucks sent a tape to the league (I don't remember if Moore got suspended or not, so) and I agree that they could have somewhat of a case, but I think it was just a hit gone wrong. I also believe that even if it was a clean hit, a goon/enforcer/some one who can handle themselves in a fight is able to "send a message" that you're not allowed to do that to my teammate.
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Post by Bryce - Minny on Mar 12, 2004 5:56:29 GMT -5
Worrell should have been suspended for what he did to Ruutu there, but that has no relevance to Bertuzzi.
If the instigator rule wasnt there, when Moore smoked Bertuzzi, someone would have went right to Moore and he woulda HAD to drop the gloves, and yes May was on the ice, but that game was either 0-0 or 1-0 at that point, so an instigator woulda been huge.
Had May pummeled Moore then and there, this whole thing never would have had a chance to come about.
Bryce
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Post by bruinsgm on Mar 12, 2004 15:09:52 GMT -5
You are probably right about the instigator. But I don't know if May would've pounded him as at the time it was a 0-0 game late in the 2nd period. Not a good time for retribution.
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