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Post by kingshuck on Sept 2, 2003 22:58:32 GMT -5
why is this not being answerred i am loosing thakchuk because the alternate simmer.. no offense to who it is.. didnt put murray on the IR for me.. this is really annoying...
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Sept 3, 2003 2:15:15 GMT -5
Kirk, I never received anything about you wanting to send Glen Murray on to the IR. Such an important issue would have needed to be emailed to the BRHL2002@yahoo.com account and nothing else. I didn't even receive any ICQ's or other posts on the messageboard about this issue.
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 3, 2003 20:59:52 GMT -5
go to general board and read the topic.. Devils place murray on IR..
and im pretty sure i sent an e-mail..
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Post by edmontongm on Sept 3, 2003 21:48:35 GMT -5
Um, even if you put Glen Murray on IR for one week...you wouldn't have been back by the 23rd (you didn't complain till the 29th so it's safe to assume you wouldn't have been back till then) so between the 23rd and 29th you played 4 games. You'd lose Tkachuk anyway in between those days when Murray came back.
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 3, 2003 22:33:55 GMT -5
thakchuk was released on the same day as i placed murray on the IR day 51.. 7 days from day 51 is day 58....
thus making it murray should just be coming off the ir..
meaning i would be able to adjust my line up to suit my team and put us under the cap.
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Post by edmontongm on Sept 4, 2003 23:19:54 GMT -5
That's not true either. You have it posted on Aug. 16th on the message board that Murray was going on the IR. Tkachuk wasn't released till the 20th (or 21st)...it was after I had asked Eric about it, because I thought you already violated the cap. And games were simmed in between time, so what you're saying is absolutely incorrect. Both didn't happen on day 51, there is no question.
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 4, 2003 23:26:28 GMT -5
tkachuk was released while murray should have been on the IR.. thus a miscomunication and i would have been under cap and tkachuk would have been on my roster
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Post by PensGM on Sept 5, 2003 9:03:26 GMT -5
I generally wouldn't wade into a debate like this one, but I don't exactly think from what I understand that Kirk should lose Tkachuk.
If he was on his way out the door to go away and work for a week, and one of the last things he did was post that Murray should be on IR, and then due to miscommunication or whatever he lost his best player, I don't know exactly how right that is.
I have business trips, and a family, and if for whatever reason something like that happened to me, I would blade out of the league in a heartbeat.
If a guy isn't attentive, if a guy doesn't make an effort, then he should be punished. If a guy has real life issues that take him out of play...the some common sense should be used. If that is the case then I vote for no alternate simmer on any occasion and only Bryce should be simming.(If that would have happened, then Kirk wouldn't be penalized right now.)
I say (Pain in the butt that he is) that Kirk deserves a break.
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Post by AVS GM on Sept 5, 2003 14:35:23 GMT -5
This one is crazy that is for sure but In the Eyes of an outsider. Oh by the way i forget my password and don't have time to track it down. So guest i am. But If the Rules state if you're over you loose the top guy then Tkachuk you're gone. And if the rules are altered and take into coniseration of this then so be it. But the timing of this, is insane. Just be cause Bryce is gone doesn't allow anyone to walk over anyone on topics like this. Remember appreciate the ones that are taking time to do the simming and the league duties. Or someday a great league will fold due to the bickering that goes on in the Message board.
Avs GM
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Post by PensGM on Sept 6, 2003 9:52:25 GMT -5
My point is simply this.
If Kirk made reasonable effort to keep under the cap, and the alternate simmer didn't put his player on IR, and Kirk goes out of town because of a REAL LIFE issue, then how harsh of a penalty does he really deserve?
When you look at punishing someone, you look at intent. You look at the effect on everyone else.
There was no disregard for his team. There was reasonable effort to fit within the rules. The fact that he was over the cap for a few days and his explanation solid should have some bearing.
And if real life gets in the way of the sim, then some leniency has to be brought forward. The guy had to leave town, so you take his best player, now let's be reasonable here.
My point about the alternate simmer was that Bryce was also out of town. I have nothing against an alternate simmmer. I was just making the point that since Bryce was out of town as well, then Kirk wouldn't be getting punished right now.
If the BRHL can't realize that sometimes, work, kids, and a host of other things can come before the league, then I would be very disappointed. And if it is solely because it is Kirk with the issue(Because of past things that have happened) that he isn't getting any consideration then I am TOTALLLY against it.
The guy had to go out of town to work. He quickly posted on the messageboard to put a guy on IR. Give the guy a break, his intentions were good.
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 6, 2003 15:42:00 GMT -5
Finally someone sees my point. I sent an e-mail(simmer must not have got it).. Posted on the message board.. Thinking that my team whould have been under the cap for the week.. so i left for a 6 day trip... but the simmer didnt get my e-mail and didnt put murray on the IR.. This is not my fault and i shouldnt be getting punished for this.. if what it takes to be in the brhl is that u cant have an outside life then im sorry but thats pathetic.
I would please like to have my full roster (with tkachuk) up soon so i can continue on with this season..
Kirk
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Post by CrismonCapsGm on Sept 6, 2003 21:07:15 GMT -5
So, I suppose two seasons ago when exactly the same thing happened to Trevor Thoms and you FORCED him to buyout Hasek, that was OK. But, now that it's happening to you, it's not. Hypocrite.
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 6, 2003 23:33:33 GMT -5
trevor was the one simming so he should have new he was over the cap. so how is it even similar.. i was away from CPU access for a week.. trevor was the one simming everynight he should have realized he was over the cap..
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Post by CrismonCapsGM on Sept 7, 2003 2:50:40 GMT -5
No he wasn't. He was away for the weekend and Ryan (your brother) was simming... then, he went over after one game and you and Ryan decided that he had to buyout Hasek, despite the fact he was away and couldn't do anything about it. You didn't care that it was a special situation (the incident is even in the RULES Bryce wrote up.) Now, the same thing happens to you, and suddenly you say everyone should go easy on you? Sorry, but what goes around comes around. Practice what you preach rather than just demanding what's most beneficial to you at all times.
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 7, 2003 23:45:53 GMT -5
Crimsen before u speak its usually best if you know what ur talking about.. their is no right up in the rules.. TREVOR was the one simming..
So league office whats the ruling hear am i losing tkachuk because of a miscomunication in which i wanted to send my player on the IR..
Kirk
Crimsen where do u get off ripping into everyone... this issue isnt even involving u so why cant u keep u stop running ur mouth like u know anything about hockey?
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Post by Nashville Predators on Sept 8, 2003 0:35:28 GMT -5
Oh boy. Kirk, write or rong, Red here has a poynt.
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Post by CrismonCapsGM on Sept 8, 2003 1:17:50 GMT -5
Kirk, you're full of crap. Trevor wasn't simming. Trevor didn't make the decision that Hasek should be lost. You and your brother who got kicked out for cheating saw that he was over the cap for one game after leaving for the weekend and led a tirade saying Hasek should be bought out. This was all because Buffalo was doing better than you and you were annoyed that your amazing super team couldn't catch him in the standings. It was apparent to everyone in the league at the time what was going on.
Now, the same thing happens to you and you cry foul. Oh, we should be fair. Oh, it wasn't my fault. Well, either provide some PROOF that you e-mailed brhl2002@yahoo.com and asked for Murray to be put on the IR or live with the rules. Don't be asking for some exception on the grounds the rule isn't fair when you've been such a big proponent of forcing other people to buy out players.
As for your other comments, you're a whiny little punk, and you always have been. The fact that I started with the worst team in the entire league and you started with the Stanley Cup Champions and we're even in the standings says alot about your supposed amazing GMing ability. You can't even e-mail the league properly to put a guy on the IR.
I'm sorry for this outburst everyone, but there is NO REASON why Kirk should get some exception when other teams in the league have been losing players all year, unless he can prove he was following procedure and Eric made a mistake. I don't want to hear your sob story, Kirk. You don't even know the meaning of the word ethics.
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Post by Jackets on Sept 8, 2003 23:32:58 GMT -5
Bryce (the commish) should have the final say on this. Here is my view of the matter: If you go away for extended period of time (2 days or more) and didn't leave a message (on the board) or e-mail to the simmer then I don't see why we should let this slip. Is the matter so urgent that you can't send or post a message saying that you will be away? My bet is no. Kirk, I think is fair to say most GMs in the league don't like you for your ethic, attitude and general lack of respect to other GMs (and did I mention annoying from time to time?). My word of advice GROW UP and act your age; have a little respect to others then you might find others are actually nice people. Refer to Washington's comment: I looked at NJ standing, its roster and everything. I would have won the cup back-to-back already with those kind of materials. ;D
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Post by kingshuck on Sept 9, 2003 0:20:23 GMT -5
Crimsen your wrong trevor was simming... remember he was on the 15 game winning streak then he lost hasek and lost some games he was simming through that winning streak..(not saying he was cheating hear)
and jackets.. does it occur to u that something always happens to my team? loose jagr when my lines still had thornton on the farm oops he plays and i loose him.. i offer wolley a better contract than cal (not a big deal but u get the point)... i loose thakchuk... geeeezzz maybe its me but id say i get jerked around in this league because im bryce's brother and if my team was left alone i'd probably win and u so called ethical people would think hes cheating..so with my team that looses a 80+ player every year i think i fair pretty good...
so before u people run your mouth's know what ur talking about ok? thanx..
Kirk
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