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Post by Bryce - Minny on Aug 7, 2010 12:09:37 GMT -5
Man that Norm guy is an idiot, how could he pay palyer X that much money. Way to go Leaf Fan.
*you get the idea*
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Post by Eric - Washington GM on Aug 15, 2010 18:10:51 GMT -5
What was the rush to start FA when the league wasn't up to date?
Kinda sucks that RFA isn't up as well, as teams can better gauge their off-season signings with both pools open.
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Post by Rubber_Duck on Aug 15, 2010 18:20:05 GMT -5
we do have the list of confirmed RFAs, we could put them up?
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Post by Rubber_Duck on Aug 15, 2010 18:21:44 GMT -5
Confirmed RFAs are Colin White (CLB) Antony Stewart (CAL) Joey MacDonald (LA) Robyn Regehr (LA) Tyler Arnason (NAS) Andrew Raycroft (PIT) Radim Vrbata (BUF) Mike Comrie (CAL) Kyle Calder (PIT) Brian Gionta (NJ) Simon Gagne (COL) Jim Vandermeer (WAS) Sami Pahlsson (FLA) Niclas Backstrom (FLA)
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Post by Rubber_Duck on Aug 16, 2010 1:19:40 GMT -5
I've got an idea that should help with dealing with the cap.... When you offer a player under 1.5 million, note whether if it is a contract to play on your pro roster or farm team.... that way if a team bids 750k for a player to play on his farm, another can bid the same amount for him to play on his pro roster.... however, if that player is sent to the minors after signing a pro contract, he's paid the full amount of his contract.... sort of similar to the 1-way and 2-way deals some sign in the NHL....
It would definitely help out Buffalo right now
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Post by KingsGM on Aug 16, 2010 8:12:32 GMT -5
It might help Buffalo, but it would be a pain in the butt to keep track of. I don't see what's wrong with keeping things the way they are.
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on Aug 16, 2010 9:09:06 GMT -5
Can someone please answer this. According to the rules, the maximum roster size for every franchise is 50 players. Does this roster size maximum directly impact the number of UFA players that any given team can place bids on?
Example: If they have 45 players already under contract, are they only allowed to make a maximum of 5 bids? If so, who is monitoring the number of bids that GMs are making to ensure they are keeping their team within the set limit?
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Post by CGYFlames GM on Aug 16, 2010 9:47:14 GMT -5
It might help Buffalo, but it would be a pain in the butt to keep track of. I don't see what's wrong with keeping things the way they are. I agree. For a rebuilding team like mine, the contracts under 1.5 that people intend to send to the minors are the roster positions I'm going to need to fill to keep my team within league regulations.
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Post by FincanSJGM on Aug 16, 2010 10:06:21 GMT -5
There are some players that are clearly minor league players, on any team, even yours Eric. So why should we have to have room for them on the pro roster?
As far as I recall we have always been able to sign a contract with the intent of putting a guy in the minors or with the intent of demoting someone else. This seems new this year.
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Post by KingsGM on Aug 16, 2010 10:14:15 GMT -5
Personally, I think that everything under the $1.5M line should be a free for all and not immediately count against your cap, but that's just me. People close to the cap limit have minor league roster requirements too. If the have-nots want someone for their pro roster all they have to do is bid $1,500,001 and magically most of their competition dries up.
Of course, the simpler solution is to abolish or increase the cap level during UFA, with serious penalties for those who can't bring it back under control by the start of the season.
Anyhow, all of this is food for thought for next year. We have the rules for this year, like em or lump em.
PS: Canucks may be right re: the 50-man cap. Is there an offical word on this, because it would impact how many guys I opt to bid on. In future, such a rule might also be a good way to help cap UFA spammers.
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Post by Rubber_Duck on Aug 16, 2010 11:56:59 GMT -5
Well, we're going to need an answer quickly as some of the previous bids on Buffalo's new bids expire tonight
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Post by Bruins GM on Aug 16, 2010 12:28:37 GMT -5
As far as I know, any winning bid that puts Buffalo over the Cap will be null and void. You can't exceed the cap at any time during the preseason or regular season.
The next highest bidder might end up with that player or they re-do the whole auction if the ripple effect causes other teams to go over their Cap.
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Post by B-Hawks on Aug 16, 2010 12:36:41 GMT -5
Personally, I think we should nuke all the bids.. start UFA over on the weekend and allow anyone to complete buyouts until then.. after that they are sol.
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Post by tynz on Aug 16, 2010 12:45:34 GMT -5
For myself I am doubting that I will be on the comp. so much next weekend. I was hoping to have all my players signed before wed. But if the majority of the people would like to start over then I guess lets do it.
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Post by tynz on Aug 16, 2010 13:38:47 GMT -5
Kurtis Foster should be a UFA..I didnt qualify him as an RFA
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Post by FincanSJGM on Aug 16, 2010 15:26:53 GMT -5
so why was Corey Eskins first threat deleted? I know I started it, but he met the criteria to be a UFA. If he wasnt eligible then fine, but he was eligible and there on the board for everyone to see. If there is supposed to be a set structure to follow for rated guys who meet the criteria then please let us know because as far as I know this hasnt really happened before.
also, can we please get clarity on what happens to farm eligible players. I really do think it is ridiculous if we are not allowed to bid on farm players when we are told we have to have a full farm.
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Post by FincanSJGM on Aug 16, 2010 15:29:21 GMT -5
Oh I see, its becasue we are re-setting all of them ha. I will send you a list of guys that I have found that are not on our current UFA list or property of any team. I will wait until I have the full list though.
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Post by B-Hawks on Aug 16, 2010 15:47:01 GMT -5
Kurtis Foster should be a UFA..I didnt qualify him as an RFA Added.. is there anyone else missing from this category?
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Post by Rubber_Duck on Aug 16, 2010 15:48:54 GMT -5
i believe dallas didn't qualify olli jokinen, so i think he should be up here as well
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Post by KingsGM on Aug 19, 2010 6:27:02 GMT -5
Just a reminder to everyone to keep an eye on your 50-man limit. If you are bidding on more guys than you have spots open it's dirty pool.
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Post by ianintheam on Aug 19, 2010 7:46:00 GMT -5
Just a reminder to everyone to keep an eye on your 50-man limit. If you are bidding on more guys than you have spots open it's dirty pool. You mean like bidding on 4 goalies at once?
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Post by KingsGM on Aug 19, 2010 8:14:00 GMT -5
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on Aug 19, 2010 8:20:43 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there's just no place in hockey for taking your frustrations out on the fans...
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Post by KingsGM on Aug 19, 2010 8:37:01 GMT -5
I didn't know Martin St. Louis was a blonde!
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on Aug 19, 2010 8:52:24 GMT -5
I didn't know Martin St. Louis was a blonde! Hahahahaha!!! Classic!
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Post by FincanSJGM on Aug 19, 2010 10:39:09 GMT -5
Well dont I feel dumb. I ready Thursday at midnight and that was clearly last night, but I had tonight on my mind all day yesterday and this morning I walked in to work and thought.......oh shit.
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Post by FincanSJGM on Aug 19, 2010 13:09:49 GMT -5
So are we allowed to add names and then as long as they are over 25 and have a rating and are not property of any team?
The reason I ask was that the one thread I started in the 1st UFA was made and then deleted and re-made by Jesse. My view is that if the Commish can do it (Bryce on Backlund) than we should be able to as well if we are the ones that notice they are available. It doesnt mean we get the player, but there should be some motivation/reward for finding these players. Its not just a matter of finding the player in the data base as many who appear to be free agents are actually owned by a team. We also have to check their ages as the ages listed are not trustworthy, Further if Bryce can do it where he made the thread and then immediately made a bid that put anyone up against the cap out of it, why should other GMs not be able to do the same?
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Post by jdevils3 on Aug 19, 2010 13:18:13 GMT -5
So are we allowed to add names and then as long as they are over 25 and have a rating and are not property of any team? The reason I ask was that the one thread I started in the 1st UFA was made and then deleted and re-made by Jesse. My view is that if the Commish can do it (Bryce on Backlund) than we should be able to as well if we are the ones that notice they are available. It doesnt mean we get the player, but there should be some motivation/reward for finding these players. Its not just a matter of finding the player in the data base as many who appear to be free agents are actually owned by a team. We also have to check their ages as the ages listed are not trustworthy, Further if Bryce can do it where he made the thread and then immediately made a bid that put anyone up against the cap out of it, why should other GMs not be able to do the same? I actually sent Bryce a list w/ Backlund and all the other free agents (Pyorala, Pikkarainen, Fretter, etc.) not originally listed. The question I have is... last season we were only allowed to sign players who have signed in Europe for 1 season... guys like Pyorala, Fretter, Chiodo, a number of others have all signed in Europe and have bids for more than 1 season?
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Post by jdevils3 on Aug 19, 2010 13:20:24 GMT -5
There are many more FA's that haven't been posted, but I have already sent the list to Bryce with all players over 25 with no rights. They should be added soon.
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Post by Bryce - Minny on Aug 19, 2010 14:16:06 GMT -5
Im just going to post them all up, make it much easier.
As far as the Euro's go, rather than running around tryiing to track it, if a guys dumb enough to offer more years (and more SB) then thats their loss.
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