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Post by sens on Aug 5, 2008 19:15:36 GMT -5
place bids below
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Post by coloradogm on Aug 8, 2008 8:57:38 GMT -5
Length: 3 Years Base: $4,500,000 SB: $6,750,000 Total Offer: $6,750,000 per
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Post by sens on Aug 10, 2008 6:58:47 GMT -5
signed
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Post by Nashville Predators on Aug 10, 2008 11:43:04 GMT -5
NOT SIGNED.
Even though Colorado made a trade (which is yet to be confirmed by Montreal, via an auction in the trade thread) they made the OFFER on Timonen when they did not have sufficient cap room to do so. Our whole premise was that GMs cannot make bids on players to exceed the cap. And although cap room was made post haste the league cannot allow this sort of bidding to continue.
Sorry Rob, Timonen is still open.
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Post by Bruins GM on Aug 10, 2008 12:50:56 GMT -5
What the heck . . .
$1,850,000 @ 4 yrs + $3,700,000 SB
$2,775,000 Avg
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Post by REX LEAK - PHILLY on Aug 10, 2008 13:08:23 GMT -5
$3,500,000 for 4 years and $7 million bonus.
Total $5,250,000 per season.
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Post by coloradogm on Aug 10, 2008 14:59:11 GMT -5
Length: 3 Years Base: $4,150,000 SB: $6,225,000 Total Offer: $6,225,000 per
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Post by Bruins GM on Aug 10, 2008 15:17:02 GMT -5
Length: 3 Years Base: $4,150,000 SB: $6,225,000 Total Offer: $6,225,000 per Umm . . . if I get disqualified from bidding on Aebischer because I edited a thread to highlight a typo, how can Colorado be allowed to place another bid on a player after they broke the bidding rules in the first place? If their first bid was in violation of the Cap Rules and was voided, they should be barred from all further bids on this player, should they not?
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Post by coloradogm on Aug 10, 2008 15:33:39 GMT -5
Give me an f'ing break... I just got back from getting married in PEI and thought I could buy out Steve McCarthy to be cap compliant... Little did I know when I was gone a rule was implemented that did not permit buy-outs during UFA. I immediately moved Rachunek Montreal to be cap compliant (within minutes of my first attempted signing of Timonen after I found out I couldn't buy out McCarthy).
I'll let Ken rule on this, but I think some of you guys are taking this a little bit too seriously. It's not like I cancelled my first bid or anything. I suppose I should have gone back and read the past two weeks of messages to discover the new "no buy-out during UFA rule", but come on...
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Post by mleducislander on Aug 10, 2008 15:41:46 GMT -5
The rule has always been there so far as I can remember. It is not so tight a situation in the other league I am in as you are able to get your roster in order by season's start, but I guess in this league it is designed to keep madhouse bidding in check.
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Post by Nashville Predators on Aug 10, 2008 16:08:32 GMT -5
Chris is correct. It's a shitty situation but like our strict Salary Cap rule if we bend the rules for some it weakens the whole premise of having the rule.
I apologize to those who may have found decisions a touch smattered about and disorganized my time to sit at focus on the league is sporadic most times - with Liam, April, and my mother in town for the week. Plus yesterday was my birthday.
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Post by Nashville Predators on Aug 10, 2008 22:25:28 GMT -5
NJ's bid is still the leading bid.
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Post by rangers on Aug 11, 2008 11:19:28 GMT -5
5M per 3M SB 3 years = 6M per seasons
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Post by starsgenman on Aug 11, 2008 12:05:42 GMT -5
A player Rangers are allowed to sign? =)
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Post by Nashville Predators on Aug 11, 2008 15:46:16 GMT -5
Yup, his last remaining bid - Alfredsson - was topped by Calgary. This is the trickle down effect as players who were close to signing allofasudden get new offers from GMs who got penalized elsewhere. It happens.
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Post by REX LEAK - PHILLY on Aug 11, 2008 21:22:46 GMT -5
Length: 3 Years Base: $4,150,000 SB: $6,225,000 Total Offer: $6,225,000 per
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Post by penguinsgm on Aug 12, 2008 11:07:23 GMT -5
4 years 5 million per year 6 million SB
Annual contract: 6.5 million per
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Post by REX LEAK - PHILLY on Aug 12, 2008 12:16:08 GMT -5
4 years 5 million per year 6 million SB Annual contract: 6.5 million per 4 years $5.5 million per year $11 million dollar signing bonus Total per season $8,250,000. Time to stop playing......
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Post by penguinsgm on Aug 13, 2008 23:24:10 GMT -5
Ugh
Here goes....
3 years 7.5 million per 3 million SB
8.5 million per year average
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Post by rangers on Aug 14, 2008 11:41:28 GMT -5
6M per season 6M SB 2 years = 9M per season
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Post by coloradogm on Aug 14, 2008 12:00:50 GMT -5
NOT SIGNED. Even though Colorado made a trade (which is yet to be confirmed by Montreal, via an auction in the trade thread) they made the OFFER on Timonen when they did not have sufficient cap room to do so. Our whole premise was that GMs cannot make bids on players to exceed the cap. And although cap room was made post haste the league cannot allow this sort of bidding to continue. Sorry Rob, Timonen is still open. I'm looking at this a little more closely today and feel that Timonen should have been mine. From the rules - "You are not allowed to sign a UFA if it puts you OVER the salary cap at the TIME of the signing. Please consider this in the months, weeks, days in advance of the deadline to start free agency. Buyouts and trades are the options of choice to pursue. " - I put Rachunek up for public auction and a bid that met the required min. bid was made by Ian at 9:54 a.m. - Subsequently, the clock on Timonen ran out at 9:57 a.m. at which time he would have signed with me... At the time of the signing (which is what the rules clearly require), I was not over the cap. Therefore I validly signed Timonen and he should immediately be placed on my roster.
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Post by REX LEAK - PHILLY on Aug 14, 2008 12:16:48 GMT -5
NOT SIGNED. Even though Colorado made a trade (which is yet to be confirmed by Montreal, via an auction in the trade thread) they made the OFFER on Timonen when they did not have sufficient cap room to do so. Our whole premise was that GMs cannot make bids on players to exceed the cap. And although cap room was made post haste the league cannot allow this sort of bidding to continue. Sorry Rob, Timonen is still open. I'm looking at this a little more closely today and feel that Timonen should have been mine. From the rules - "You are not allowed to sign a UFA if it puts you OVER the salary cap at the TIME of the signing. Please consider this in the months, weeks, days in advance of the deadline to start free agency. Buyouts and trades are the options of choice to pursue. " - I put Rachunek up for public auction and a bid that met the required min. bid was made by Ian at 9:54 a.m. - Subsequently, the clock on Timonen ran out at 9:57 a.m. at which time he would have signed with me... At the time of the signing (which is what the rules clearly require), I was not over the cap. Therefore I validly signed Timonen and he should immediately be placed on my roster. I don't see why you are trying to argue this publicly, since Bryce already ruled on it and asked you to PM him if you have questions. IMO, you should stop posting your position and go to Bryce again. I could make counterpoints against your argument, but it is up to Bryce and you to work this out.
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Post by Nashville Predators on Aug 14, 2008 16:02:28 GMT -5
We stated prior to UFA starting that everyone must stay under the cap and only bid within their cap space. Coinciding with our no buy out rule during FA we've made it so GMS cannot bid willy nilly only to buy out another player and thus continuing the cycle of FA. We also informed everyone to make sure they buy out or deal whom they want to deal such that they have the cap space they wanted heading towards FA. Again, I haven't updated the rules since last year. Last year we had emailed all offers to Clint so you'd have time to make trades after submitting an offer - depending on when Clint updated - by doing it on the forum we are working in real time.
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Post by penguinsgm on Aug 15, 2008 18:27:59 GMT -5
3 years 7 million per 7.5 million SB
Annual average = 9.5 million per
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Post by sens on Aug 17, 2008 21:04:44 GMT -5
signed. jh
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